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  • #661
    Jabbawocky
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      Hi all

      Will soon be starting to re-trim Barney. All of the Plastic covered hardboard trim panels are very tatty and I want to replace them. i am looking for ideas what materials to use to replace them. Should I just use hardboard and sticky back plastic, or are there any modern alternative materials that will do a better job?

      Also, how do you bend the hardboard to get the curves on either side of the front roof lining?

      All comments gratefully received.

      Cheers Mick

      #3089

      salut
      Those that I, I changed, I made them with panels on which we stick hard plastic photos of 2mm

      😉

      #3090
      jkhackney
      Participant

        Hi Mick,

        I’m not quite finished with this, yet, as I lack a source for the U-profile edging, of which I’m missing about 3 or 4 pieces. I will also have to modify some panels in the back for the shoulder seat belts.

        For the panels I used the same material Martin Walter used. It’s fine sawdust glued and pressed together into boards. We call it “masonite” in American and it’s called “pavatex” in Switzerland. One side is smooth and the back has a fine diamond-pattern and is rough. It’s very cheap.

        I wasn’t able to get it in the thickness originally used by MArtin Walter and I used a slightly thicker board. However I learned that thinner is better! Something like 2mm would be good. It DOES matter because now the Silent Gliss track in front doesn’t quite fit, and I can’t get the frontmost panel in over the windscreen. The original U-edging is also too narrow for the boards I used. It bothers me so much that I will re-make the ill-fitting pieces in thinner pavatex. BTW I cut the pieces with a hobby knife.

        To make the bends I soaked the pieces in water in the bathtub overnight. Here is a photo of the side roof panels. The bend is a guess. Just try to get an even arc of 80-90 degrees (almost a quarter circle). The pieces are held in shape with string until they dry. Getting the shape perfect isn’t so important, as the screws hold them tight. You can still adjust the shape when it’s dry.

        To make the bends in the panel over the front seats, I did each side in turn. Let the panel edge stand in the bath overnight so the last 10″ or so of it are very wet. It will only be slightly soft. Then bend it to shape by hand, rolling carefully so as not to make a crease. Finally, lay the piece on the floor and place a heavy object such as a bookcase on the wet edge, trapping just the last 1/2″ or so onto the floor. In fact I think I trapped the edge beneath a garden fence at the edge of the concrete pad in our garden. Then, gently raise the rest of the panel up to be vertical, such that the panel bends along the curve you previously hand-bent. Place another bookcase, Land Rover, picnic table, or heavy furnishing behind the panel to hold it in that position overnight, or until dry: the edge clamped onto the floor and the rest of the panel at 90 degrees to the floor, held up by something heavy. Make fine adjustments to the curve as it’s drying. Repeat on the opposite side of course.

        For a nice, waterproof, durable white covering with a slight grain to it, I used vinyl bathroom wallpaper. This was expensive but you don’t need a lot of it. I also bought the corresponding waterproof wallpaper glue. Wallpaper after the pieces are cut and dried.

        -Jeremy

        #3091

        Hi
        I used the same material as was used originally the thin Millboard stuff you can buy it in B&Q, and covered it in white headlinning from Woolies.
        The large front panel above the seats i cut from a large sheet and wet the ends one side at a time and tucked it between the wall and a radiator (i have round wide cast iron radiators very handy for this) and placed various books magazines to create the curve i did this over a few days,the long panels above the rear passenger doors was done the same way although this was more difficult due to the shorter width had to score the back of the boards horizontally to allow the panel to bend.
        If i was doing it again i would be inclined to use 2mm aluminium and get a sheet metal shop to roll it into the correct curve, when trimmed you would be none the wiser.
        Regards
        Malcolm

        #3092
        loic
        Participant

          Hi guy,

          I also have to rebuild the roof trim, an I ask my self if, for the large front pannel, I can wet the ends and then directly put the trim in place and let it dry like this.

          It’s seems to be a good idea, but I find it too simple did somebody tried this?

          Thank’s in advance.

          Loïc

          #3093
          jkhackney
          Participant

            Loic,
            the 3mm panel I used was too stiff to try this, and the bend was too tight at the front. Maybe if the panel was less thick? Give it a shot and let us know how it works!
            -Jeremy

            #3094
            jerryd
            Participant

              I did an experimental roof section using 3mm MDF Board, soaked it for 20 minutes in hot water and then tied string round it to hold the curve. I found it easier to place a 2″ x 1″ timber along each edge of the mdf and then tighten the strings until the curve looked correct.
              I left it for two days before removing the string and it’s kept its shape just lying around in the garage.

              I was thinking of using a “La Salle” fibre glass headliner for the front section as the one in mine got vandalized.

              #3095
              loic
              Participant

                Thank’s Jeremy, i’ll keep you inform.

                Jerry, I also think about Lassalle, but they are quiet expensive and we will see the difference with the other trim.

                #3096
                loic
                Participant

                  So, I tried this afternoon, but after 2 hours in the bad, the pannel is still verry hard. How long did you wait?

                  #3097
                  jkhackney
                  Participant

                    Overnight, in the bathtub! I had to read my old post above ^^ to remember. It was not easy to bend, either!
                    -Jeremy

                    #3098
                    loic
                    Participant

                      So, after different try, I was not verry happy of the result. The HDF is too hard too work for an uniform and unmarked result.
                      And after several try, i decided too change the material and try with wite plexyglass (also called perplex).
                      This is my experience :
                      1 I Build a wood and steel matrix

                      2 Cut the plexy

                      3 Fix the plexy over the matrix

                      4 Gently warm the plexy and roll the matrix over it

                      5 A few minutes aftre that’s the result

                      The final product is still quite flexible so you can adjust it too fit it.

                      #3099

                      Hi! Mick

                      I am a new member (just joined)
                      I have a Toyota Hi-ace Dormobile that I have just finished re-vamping the interior. Upholstery,work tops, new doors, catches,wall panels,roof panels,gas struts etc
                      The following list may be of use to you.

                      Magnummotorhomes & Caravans Ltd
                      01472 353520
                      Unit 4 Cosolt Ind Est, Convamore Road Grimsby DN32 9JL They sell every thing you need. Wall & roof panels 3mm any colour or finish. Trim etc.
                      Have a web site and deliver all products.

                      Twfoam Again have a site where you can order any shape and size of foam and deliver within a couple of days.

                      Seascrew Gas struts made to any length and pressure.

                      Selfit Co.UK For formica

                      Again all deliver and have quite good web sites.

                      Hope some of this may be of help

                      Regards
                      Derek

                      #3100
                      jkhackney
                      Participant

                        Welcome to the forum, Derek, and thanks for the tips!
                        -Jeremy

                        #3101
                        jonjeans
                        Participant

                          Very interesting and useful posts – thank you.

                          Now I must get around to doing my interior.

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